Its a sin committed against the YAWHEH..!!!

peter said,

December 12, 2008 at 9:49 am
We Ibans in Sarawak use the term ‘Petara’ to refer to God, which was also used to refer to the God of our old ancestral religion. Does this mean that Iban Christians are pagans? No, because it is the actual Iban term referring to a higher power/deity/God. As far as I know, Arab Muslims take no issue to Arab Cristians referring to God as Allah either.

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mike sibinil said,

June 1, 2009 at 2:58 am

Pagans declare that they are full of imaginations and perhaps even secular philosophies. To be honest with anyone, that’s all they got apart from the meagre knowldge that they ahve acquired through several years of learning in that so-called HISL (Higher Institution of Secular Learning).

Some PhDs have been known to have been acquired through dubious means – one doesn’t even have to leave one’s own confort zone to get one – through the marvels of distant learning available today I suppose. I got mine through ’sweat and blood’ – no shortcut, no dubious means. What’s so great about "imagination"? How do you apply that term in your faith – atheistic or otherwise? What can you imagine of God to be like? Is He like the tail of an elephant? Its trunk; its hide (skin); its leg? Is God what anyone can imagine Him to be? Is He the God of all religions?

Can the Biddhists claim to have the SAME deity or God as the Judeo-Christians? Is YAHWEH or Judeo-Christianity EXACTLY the SAME as the ALLAH of Islam or BUDDHA of Buddhism? Can YAHWEH be called by ANY other NAME? How do you differentiate between NAMES and NATURES or CHARACTERISTICS or ATTRIBUTES of God? Do you know the difference?

The Word of God (Holy Bible) declares that the God of the Bible is the true God and that there is none other; all other so-called "gods" are false if they do NOT have the ATTRIBUTES, NATURES and CHARACTERISTICS of the God of the Bible! Does God have a "daughter"; does He reside amongst the rocks and the trees? Does He reside in animals, plants and other non-human organisms?

Tell me more about your "petara"? Does this pagan deity (a mere mystical folklore deity which is actually one of Satan’s demons) possess the natures, attributes and characteristics of YAHWEH? Where does this "petara" live/reside? What are his attributes and characteristics? Is he/she any different from the KadazanDusun mystical pagan deity named "Kinoringan’ whom the Roman Catholics, SIBs, SDAs, as well as Protestants of Borneo of the KadazanDusun tribes of people ALSO worship apart from YAHWEH?

If I examine every statement you made above (Dec 12, 2008), I believe you have either plagiarised or concocted them without ANY qualifications whatsoever. It is PURE arrogance and ignorance to declare that Arab Christian have no qualms in referring to YAHWEH as ALLAH unless of course they have never been genuinely BORN AGAIN. It is absolutely amazing why people find it so easy to coin a few statements out of some dusty and unsupported hypothesis and conveniently calls it as a true statement of faith.

Don’t you know that God shall judge people by what they say and believe in? Who said that He shall judge anyone by good works? By hypothesizing that ALL of Islam do NOT mind you calling your "petara" god as ALLAH is smacked of ignorance and trodding on dangerous grounds. I do NOT believe that you have examined diligently what I have posted earlier in Dec 2008. You just skimmed through a few lines and got so enraged when what I have posted collided head on with what you have pampered all this while. It must have been so excruciatingly painful to your emotional pride when at last someone stood up disagreeing with you and your religious organisation.

Lately, the Sarawakians have joined the bandwagon to challenge the authority concerning the term "ALLAH" found in the Indonesian Bible. I tell you, this was a mistake, a major blunder and a mountain of a SIN committed against YAHWEH by

1) the Bible Society of Malaysia,

2) the ‘christiansed’ people of Borneo, and

3) the priests, bishops and pastors who did NOTHING to oppose the BSM’s decision to adopt the name "Allah".

The dire implication of this blunder is that those who shall stubbornly pamper this false idea or notion that the term "Allah" is the Arabic word for "Elohim" are worshiping >1 "god". It takes only 1 hole to sink a boat (a biblical phrase).

The righteous thing to do NOW is to BURN all the Indonesian Bibles and replaced them with a Bible in Bahasa Melayu WITHOUT the name of the Muslim god called "ALLAH" and revert back to using the original Hebrew names like David, Joseph, Mary, Jesus, Abraham, Moses, etc., instead of using translating these proper nouns (names) into Daud, Yusof, Mariam, Isa, Musa, etc. Why don’t you ask the Jews what they think about translating Hebrew names into Arabic? Can you do this please and submit to me an objective evidence to adduce the claim that Hebrew names can be transliterated and that "Allah" is a direct translation from the Hebrew word "Elohim"?

Again, no one has yet to produce proofs or evidence which I needed earlier pertaining to the Apostles or disciples of Jesus Christ at Pentecost prosyletizing the pagan Arabs who came to Jerusalem into embracing the cross of Jesus Christ and that the Jewish-Arabs during the time of the patriarch referred to YAHWEH as ALLAH. I challenge you that if you can produce just ONE objective evidence to rebut my theory / claim against yours, then I shall forever SHUT my mouth. Give me NO secular writings by unbelievers; or unsubstantiated heresays. Give me HARD evidence in the form of religious periodicals and documeted evidence being kept by the Jewish religious authorities or the "early" writing of the co-called "Chruch Fathers" that have been declared as authentic or canonical by the latter.

I await your response….

Mike Sibinil